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As a shield because his witnesses are able to protect him from the mueller probe and congressional probes. and as a sword because lying, tampering and obstructing delays the mueller proceedings. the president uses those delays to suggest that the probe is unlawful and to try and undermine it. and those -- both that shield and sword, i think, are melting. >> let me ask you, do you think that today's plea from cohen and what we see in mueller's filing, do you think that strengthens the collusion case? do you see this as mueller having more granular understanding of all the contacts between the h...