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The fact that there was a secret plan in places should the president go ahead and try to get rid of everyone on that investigation? >> so it's trunl troubling to hear that they had to think like that and have a contingency plan. you hear about continuity of government, and where you'd store material and what saves and how oyou can preserve dataworn a network if necessary. not surprising to me. dist rrbing that kind of discussion had to take place. >> when you look at "new york times" and new reporting in one place. there's been complicated and fraught relationship with the fbi and white house ...

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And this is all bad news for the rule of law. the half full is he hasn't succeeded. they proceed with the investigation. whitaker didn't act on this. the orders were rejected by the whiesz counsel. do you take some system is working solace from the facts are working? >> that's a good point and all too rarely made, that these dedicated law forcesment officials come work every day d spite the demoralizing effect. think for a moment of any other president who is engaged in this constant attack but they are continuing to do their job. southern district of new york represents an even greater threat...

He tried to get sessions to resign. he tried to get berman placed back in that position so he can control the investigation. and this is all bad news for the rule of law. the half full is he hasn't succeeded. they proceed with the investigation. whitaker didn't act on this. the orders were rejected by the whiesz counsel. do you take some system is worki working solace from the facts are working? >> that's a good point and all too rarely made, that these dedicated law forcesment officials come work every day d spite the demoralizing effect. think for a moment of any other president who is engag...

Remember jeff berman recused himself because he was a trump campaign contributor. he engaged in a one on one interzu donald trump. he was a form partner of rudy giuliani. and there are solid reasons why berman should not be in charge of this investigation and why trump wanted him to be. >> if i'm not mistaken, i believe the times reporting is slightly erroneous. it didn't come from berman but a senior department of justice official, which is why he was taken off that case. do you think whitaker was truthful to your colleagues in the house? >> whitaker was, at best, misleading and deceptive. wh...