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The wrong decision to embrace the socialist policies of andrew gillum. to characterize it as anything else was absurd. it's not obvious desantis was talking about gillum's policies. >> joining me now, author of the loneliness of the black republican, which is a title i love. and the editor at tampa bay times who has been covering this race since the beginning. i am fascinated by this dynamic. all politics is national, the inverse of the tip o'neill thing. this race was run successfully by desantis on essentially national terrain. does that square where what you saw? >> well, you know, i think ...

Gillum. to characterize it as anything else was absurd. it's not obvious desantis was talking about gillum's policies. >> joining me now, author of the loneliness of the black republican, which is a title i love. and the editor at tampa bay times who has been covering this race since the beginning. i am fascinated by this dynamic. all politics is national, the inverse of the tip o'neill thing. this race was run successfully by desantis on essentially national terrain. does that square where what you saw? >> well, you know, i think when you're in a time when every hour is dominated by something...