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Until today, western civilization has created great things. there are elements i think he's right about, but the larger point, i think is very toxic and pernicious. >> can i follow up one point about what matt is saying. i remember being in iowa in january of this last year during the caucuses and steve king has a really power base there. the republicans, you know, were all sort of courting him. ted cruz, you know, got him, got his support. and steve king wasn't talking about babies back then. you know, he was talking about civilization and american values and the importance of that. but he wa...

Outlaying less money to cover people under medicaid and cover people, pay for some of these tax credits. there's a little bit of a feedback loop here. it's worth saying, though, the white house is saying, this doesn't take into consideration all the other stuff we're going to be doing down the road. the problem is that no one really knows what to paycheckma that other stuff, because there's no paper, no text, no documentation. >> paul ryan was asked that, this is part one of basically a three-step plan. and part of it is going to be buying insurance over state lines and what price is going to ...

To say this is a syntax and that you will profit from it, i don't see how you would. if you want to tax something else, it should be cinnibon because it will deter me from eating it and help the obesity problem in mark. america. >> that's an obvious point. chris christie is overweight. without the tobacco and the tar it would accelerate your metabolism and you would lose weight. the fact is why isn't he willing to tax fattening foods why? if you are going to raise taxes -- i guess what i'm saying, turn it back on him. >> i don't want to turn it back on him. i want to turn it back on no one. >>...

Important, how critical do you think it is, that the president stays on point with this issue, and calls out grossly misleading reports about obama care? i mean, i think that -- i almost have a sense, a feeling of heart tonight that the worm has turned. that -- >> o i think so. >> the right wing has been exposed, that we all know what they're about right now. and they have left no stone unturned, no lie is going to turn this around. >> i think you are exactly right about that. i was watching the president, listening, and i got a pretty good feeling tonight. i got a good feeling today, to tell ...

>> right. i think that's a really good point. people do not understand how insurance really works. and they don't understand the risks that they have been taking, and that maybe they didn't know how little their policy was ultimately going to cover, god forbid, they should need it. >> are these hearings going to have an impact on people signing up? i mean, i think it's attention. i think all the attention that these hearings can get to the american people and now the president has come out -- or just within the last hour and a half, to debunk the most -- most recent lie about who exactly is co...