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As this investigation wraps up, the political stakes are as high as ever. >> julia, we expect the sentencing. we don't have a lot of timing guidance as it relates to paul manafort. what might we find out given this is one of the last things mueller will do before turning the report in to bill barr? >> reporter: that's right. the public time line is the last thing we know mueller has on his agenda. this could go one of two ways. this could be the shoe that drops where we get a lot of information about russians that manafort worked with as well as trump campaign officials who knew about those co...

President's supporters? >> well, i think he's defending his handy work and his reputation is caught up in this. and i don't think the question really is whether bob mueller is a terrible man and, you know, biassed himself. i think the question here that rosenstein will have to answer to history eventually is could this have been handled by a special commission, some sort of independent commission that would have looked into the russian meddling and then the crimes that were committed. and rosenstein is right and should question, say, the manafort prosecution. manafort is clearly guilty of crim...

Did and i'm not worried about any of that. that doesn't mean they will try to create that. but, again, i'm not. >> your thoughts? your witness. >> what do you want him to say? right? i'm terrified. my pants are wet. right? you're not going to say that. look, i would -- my mother would not put me in this kind of jeopardy, right? >> yeah. but his father would. >> that's the problem. >> his father would. that's a huge problem for don jr. obviously manafort's next -- i think mueller's next targets are going to be don jr. and jared kushner. there is a reason those guys haven't been interviewed. the...

Manafort tonight, what would it do to manafort and what might it do to the president himself. thank you for being here. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me. >> i am not a lawyer but i read lots of court documents these days. was there anything that struck you in particular about this cooperation agreement that mr. manafort agreed to today? was this a boilerplate cooperation agreement? was there anything that stood out to you as unique or worth paying attention to? >> it's pretty standard. what's interesting about it is the way it deals with the virmg case. obviously manafort has been...

People around him, he feels that sort of mueller's opening act. even though this trial is not about russia, but he feels mueller's hand is involved, obviously manafort was a prominent part of his campaign and it's a sense of what could still be to come. even though he doesn't believe his son did anything wrong, but he suggests that a, he inadvertently broke the law, perhaps, or b, he is simply the victim of a witch-hunt. stop me if you've heard that before from the president. and in this case, he feels that that could be next. and that is something that even though publicly he is suggesting i'...