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With what seem to be credible allegations come and that is when he asked the inspector general to investigate one you don't remember who first told him that mr. holder, this program goes way beyond and involves giving guns to very bad criminals in mexico? >> it wasn't so much any one person in the chain of command, it was the public allegations of coming forward. the press and letters from members of congress that made them first aware. megyn: there is a program at the department of justice, you know, it is known as a step. are you familiar with that? >> i am. megyn: this program, you hope to ...