The country. i think you do find some indian tribes in the jungle, but no structure, no development at all. literally surrounded by two oceans. >> surrounded by two oceans. >> i think we need to farm the oceans like we farm the lands. on land, we don't farm in the city, in these dense areas. coastal waters are those cities, the dense areas where there's a lot of competing uses for the environment. that's really the ocean open. >> you can see the atlantic here. >> yeah. >> not many places in the world where you can go from one ocean to the other. what you're looking at is the mooring grid, buoy...