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Inland. they have used the maritime environment to assault the mainland in terms of an amphibious assault. and they have used the maritime environment to intimidate and in some cases to try to, we think, in some cases try to pin down ukrainian ground forces near odesa. so they still have quite a bit of naval capability available to them. >> just a quick follow-up. when the embassy in kyiv was moved to lviv and then into poland, the marines moved out as well. >> correct. >> are they still with the contingent of u.s. diplomats in poland? have they dispersed? i guess i'm getting at that the frenc...

Surface crews missiles into ukraine. they have a long range. the fact that some of them may have moved away from odesa and the coast doesn't mean they're completely incapable of maneuvering to other parts of the black sea and lunching cruise missiles. i don't think we'd be willing to go that far just yet. >> we hear about the airspace still being contested. the sea of azov, northern black sea, is that considered contested? in russian hands? >> the maritime environment? >> the maritime environment. >> i think -- you would be going too far if you said -- or we were to say that the northern areas...

Some coastal defense missile capabilities. we in the latest package are offering them some coastal defense -- unmanned surface capability. and, three, the issue of mines. we know that mines have been a factor, particularly south of od odesa. some of those mines could be free floating. therefore not moored to a specific area and could affect a navy's ability to freely maneuver in that maritime space. so while they certainly -- from just a purely naval perspective, the russians have superiority in the black sea to the ukrainians, more ships, more fire power, certainly more naval capability, we w...

How big victories are these? are these symbolic? what's the significance of these? >> i mean, that russian ship, that's their largest ship in the black fleet. it's a very big, political significant and a moral victory for them to take that ship out that russia thought was completely safe operating in the black sea. is it something that will turn the tide? no, but it makes it much harder to conduct an amphibious assault in odesa without this ship there. whether the ukrainians did it or if it was a fire that caused a catastrophic chain reaction, either is damaging because the russians can't main...

It is not described as an attack by the russian military. "the cause of the explosion is under investigation," he says, "the information about possible active sabotage is under consideration." this kind of explosion heightens concern that pro-russian saboteurs could be working in the city. odesa is a city with a history of pro-russian sentiment among some politicians and residents. it's a mood that lives just below the surface, and it's difficult to get anyone to talk about it, especially during this time of war. ♪ the usual buzz of this vibrant port city is now far more subdued. many busine...