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put to rest months ago. it began over the weekend in "parade" magazine. here is the part of the interview that got people talking. when asked, governor, do you believe that president barack obama was born in the united states? governor perry says, quote, i have no reason to think otherwise. the interviewer points out that's not a definitive yes, the governor says, well, i don't have a definitive answer because he's never seen my birth certificate. the interviewer points out this is an odd answer, but you -- you've seen his. which governor perry reports, i don't know. have i? you don'...

which governor perry reports, i don't know. have i? you don't believe what's been released? i don't know. i had dinner with donald trump the other night. the governor said, and i quote, i don't have any idea. it doesn't matter. he's the president of the united states. he's elected. it's a distractive issue. keeping them honest, if it's such a distractive issue to use governor perry's own words, then why bring it up? here's how he answered. >> i said it's a good issue to keep alive. donald has got to have some fun. >> it sounds like you really do have some doubt about it. >> i haven't...