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For reportsers, but ceos, political supporters, cabinet secretaries, white house staffers, some combination therein. he'll give them a tour of the residence level, show them the lincoln bedroom, show them other parts of the the white house, engage them in discussion and retire upstairs to make phone calls. it is sort of an odd experience right now where did -- in our immediate past experience president barack obama had that sort of >> did he seem happy to share all this with you? >> he seemed very happy.

Trump and barron trump in new york, the president is essentially all alone in that 20,000 square foot mansion, all alone most nights. the reason why we wanted to tell this story was, you know, he doesn't sleep very much at night. he spends 10, 11 hours a day in the west wing. and what does he do with the rest of his time? we wanted to tell that side of the story. and the stwer answer is he hoste dinners just about every right, in this case with reporters but usually ceos, political supporters, cabinet secretaries, white house staffers, some combination therein. he'll give them a tour of the re...

Differently with the first lady and bare ron trump in new york, the president is essentially all alone in that 20,000 square foot mansion all alone most nights. the reason we wanted to tell this story was he doesn't sleep very much at night. he spends 10, 11 hours a day in the west wing. what does he do with the rest of his time? we wanted to tell that side of the story. he hosts these dinners just about every night, in this case for reportsers, but ceos, political supporters, cabinet secretaries, white house staffers, some combination therein. he'll give them a tour of the residence level, sh...

Sort of saying, oh, that's a good question. that answer, oh, that answer wasn't so good. but from a self-interested perspective obviously. and, you know, president donald trump is obviously, you know, became a household name through television. he's a creature of the medium, and here he was sort of using that medium back in print to get his message across. it was kind of an odd experience, but i think it is revealing about how he views the world. >> one of the closest people to him is keith schiller, former nypd police officer who long ago became his head of security and kind of made the trans...

Angle of attack been a little different i think he would be in it both because he thinks he would be a better president but also because i don't think he is real enamored of the idea of the clintons. i think president obama standing next to him in the rose garden has concluded that hillary clinton is the best chance the democrats have of holding the white house. he hasn't said it publically but i think that is the case. that has to be a tough pill for joe biden to swallow, as well. >> so well said. kathleen, your view. >> i agree with everything howard said. it was a very touching moment and a...