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Criticism of the congresswoman for making public this conversation, he's in an odd position though. he is no longer a general. chief of staff for an administration and president of that administration, of this country that brought this into the conversation by using conversations with gold star families to attack former presidents. >> yeah. anderson. what i would say, couple of things first. i consider john kelly a friend and comrade and battle buddy. we served together for 15 months in iraq, had quite a few exchanges in that period of time, i hope he feels same about me. we often talked about...

The odd position as being someone who in the past has derided, somewhat dependent on the u.n. council on the votes as we had one several days ago to do sanctions, which is a key part of north korea military program. nuclear program. escalation. that said the message in the last 24 hours from trump administration officials, mac master, the security adviser, nikki haley and others is the time for diplomacy in their words is running out. their patience is running thin and next syllabus military options. the thing is military options have potential of ee norm tnormn cost, especially to seoul, but ...

Resign. >> well, reality is people have to take ownership of this. that's what has to happen. you have to take ownership of the direction you're supposed to be leading, you have to take ownership of the legislation itself, how in the world did we get here and how did we get in this odd position where you can't get 51 senators to vote. you to bring vice president pence to crack the tie on just moving to proceed. this is seven years of promises. people have to take accountability and that's really what it's all about. julie: all right, hopefully they can come together with some amendments becaus...

Feels isolated. she was the first european leader to go to washington. she was looking for something that would give her government the appearance of having allies somewhere else. that's backfired because he's so unpopular, he's openly attacked the mayor of london, in the wake of several terrorist attacks. she's in an odd position where he's her only ally, but she doesn't want to talk about it. >> do you think he'll come to visit? >> it's hard to say, there would be demonstrations here if he came. >> he has agreed to come only when he's welcome. i think he wanted it to be like saudi arabia, i ...

Problem that does put the united states in a bit of an odd position to try to be the leader on this, and that's one of the many challenges that president trump and his team are going to face moving forward on this, because it really hasn't had the solution. >> all right, michelle kozinski, thank you so much for bringing us the latest from the state department. joining me to discuss this, bob baer, former cia operative, also with us cnn military and diplomatic analyst and former state department spokesman retired rear admiral john kirby. bob, i want to start with you. let's start with the surpr...