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Conversations with president trump, he testified that there was no interference in the investigation and no obstruction of justice. abc news is reporting he will say the same thing tomorrow. so there is -- is it inappropriate for the president of the united states to ask the f.b.i. director to go easy on flynn or to ask the dni to talk to the f.b.i. director about that? yeah it's inappropriate. is it illegal? no, it's not. as long as there is no evidence of obstruction of justice. former dni clapper comparing it to watergate. you had mike huckabee on in the last hour. it's absurd. in watergate...

Administration is changing over. by december, by the time jared kushner was having these meetings with kislyak and also with a russian bank, the head of a russian bank, the trump administration had already decided that they were going to hire jim mattis to be their secretary of defense, yet he was not involved in any of these discussions. it was just kushner and mike flynn. i want to let you listen to one other thing mr. clapper said on "meet the press" about how the meetings struck him because at the time he was still working in office. he was still in office. go ahead. >> you were still the ...

Look at hungary, the potential for the ideologically -- this where i see the concern is that the moral credibility of republicans is going to be so damaged that they lose any kind of political capital that they have in getting the legislation passed that they want. >> more capital for the united states, karine, because at the heart of this charge, this accusation on the other side, is one couldn't trust the outgoing administration because they are democrats. and that essentially we are not one country, right? we're two countries in which there's a revolution every four years and a new regime t...

Until dni clapper said i wasn't aware of the investigation. >> i'm speaking to the earlier one where he was addressing in a later testimony if there were violations, you know, along these lines and in that testimony he said, no, i'm not aware of any. it's never happened. >> he said if the investigation hadn't been impeded in any way when he was asked about that. >> which is really the crux of the issue, if there was violations on putting up in front of that, which of course we are all concerned about. i think the investigation showed that, look, we all want the answers. we all want to get to t...

Former dni clapper said yesterday that he feels like the checks and balances that this government is based on is eroding and that that confidence is eroding and that these institutions, the intelligence agencies are under assault. are you in contact with folks at the fbi who feel the same way? is that a widely shared feeling, do you believe? >> i don't. i have the utmost trust and confidence in the institution that are the men and women of the fbi. i mean, to steal a woody allen line, i think the method that president trump dispatched with his fbi director was a travesty of a mockery of a sham...