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Don't you agree? >> if you're going to take that position and -- >> larry: got to be right. >> a lawyer, talk on your client assume that there's no dna. >> larry: does dna come into in, robin? >> absolutely and dna of any sort. so anything that suggests that the dna is there a suffers on corroboration. she's saying that it's consensual and they'll obviously believe that she's underage which would be a strict liability so the only route that he can go is i didn't do it. >> larry: is the odo ods are, plea bargaining? >> well, he's only facing that the point a maximum of four years, so that doesn...

Apparently at least that's what they've staked up in the bail hearing and outside of the courthouse steps. >> that's a scary way to go, don't you agree? >> if you're going to take that position and -- >> larry: got to be right. >> a lawyer, talk on your client assume that there's no dna. >> larry: does dna come into in, robin? >> absolutely and dna of any sort. so anything that suggests that the dna is there a suffers on corroboration. she's saying that it's consensual and they'll obviously believe that she's underage which would be a strict liability so the only route that he can go is i didn...