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It back a bit. so there is talk about low emissions energy sources, and i have been asking everybody here what that is. the norwegian environment minister accepted that it could include gas. so this is an agreement that could allow natural gas, obviously a fossil fuel, to agreement that could allow natural gas, obviously a fossilfuel, to be part of a green solution, which i have to say does sound crazy. we spoke to the president of cop, who oversaw glasgow, he said it was very disappointed. the point of these conferences is to cut our emissions, thatis conferences is to cut our emissions, that...

This _ think there are two elements to this i_ think there are two elements to this. i think we have to reduce the emissions. we are committed to that _ the emissions. we are committed to that. but we also have to, and — to that. but we also have to, and this— to that. but we also have to, and this is— to that. but we also have to, and this is critical, develop carbon— and this is critical, develop carbon capture and litigants, so those _ carbon capture and litigants, so those two things have to go together _ so those two things have to go to . ether. �* so those two things have to g...

Investments at scale... the role of big business will be fundamental to the success of this. it is interesting. _ the success of this. it is interesting. we - the success of this. it is interesting. we talked i the success of this. it 3 interesting. we talked about the climate activists, there is pressure from below within the system saying there is a demand from change, there is also the pressure from above coming down from big businesses. some of them perhaps don't want to change quite so quickly, but others see an opportunity. that change quite so quickly, but others see an opportunity.— ...