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Defense. should never happen. i'm willing to stand up and say, enough's enough. we're not going to spend $43 million on a gas station in afghanistan. jenna: how do you stop that from happening? we hear all the strange scenarios every year, every month about strange studies we're investing on. we hear a lot of politicians say they will stop it but how will you do that? >> i will let all spending expire. this is what i do as a senator. i would let all spending expire. only renewed and through traditional appropriations process to take 60 votes. so many people say we 60 votes to defund anything. ...

Offensive programs. so as you say, it wouldn't necessarily be a huge surprise if the u.s. was doing this just as the chinese are doing to the u.s. >> oh, absolutely, jake. but you know as you're pointing out, this is the crown jewel right now of u.s. military power. forget the fighter jets, the missiles, all of that. cyber warfare, being able to attack the other guy's systems, knowing what they're up to. being able to foul up their systems. if you want to, this is some of the most secretive information. it doesn't even begin to touch on what snowden is talking about. crown jewels that the u.s....

Advertisements because unlike offensive programs answer though this is not a position i agree with, you can't just change the channel if something offends you because advertisements last 30 seconds by the time you grab the remote and change the channel it's over. >> and it's about hot sauce and granted a lot of people in the studio were chuckling what if you have a 10-year-old, 9-year-old, 8-year-old, sitting next to you and mommy what was behind that bleep. >> they have standards and practices department that approve every advertisement. if they approve it, great. i find it not particularly a...