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The washington—based wilson center, to see whether she saw antony blinken�*s remarks as a push for diplomacy. here's what she said. well, i think this is what the united states and its allies have been trying to achieve for the past several months, and especially a concerted effort during the past several weeks, offering moscow an off—ramp. and i think it's important to remind viewers that it was russia that started this conflict eight years ago, it's russia that has perpetuated by funding and equipping the separatists in the donbas region, and it's russia that has now stationed upwards ...

Wrestle with moscow's ultimatums and demands, ukrainians for now are getting on with a life they've long lived, in the shadow of russian threats and aggression. sarah rainsford, bbc news, kyiv. nina jankowicz is an expert in russian and ukrainian relations at the washington—based wilson center. great to have you on the programme, nina. just, looking back at antony blinken�*s remarks, do you see this as a de—escalation of tensions, pushing forward the diplomatic route between the two sides? i pushing forward the diplomatic route between the two sides?— between the two sides? i think thi...