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But as a political strategy, as a political defense, how effective could that be? >> well, it's probably as effective as saying witch hunt over and over. there wasn't just one witch hunt, there were many. he can call it whatever he wants. but the bottom line is the facts are going to come out. they're going to come out in some way. whether it's a report to congress. whether through hearings in congress through indictments that mueller or other offices files. they have already started to come out. and as we've said before, when the facts come out they're generally not good for trump and this ci...

President's paranoia about his ability to control his own government. >> they actually broke into the psychiatrist's office. now, come on, somebody's psychiatrist's offices files are raided by people who are commissioned by the white house? >> it's one thing to disclose breaking into the offices of the democratic national committee. it's another to have broken into the offices of a person's psychiatrist. and that the public would really have an adverse reaction to that, much more so than the democratic national committee headquarters. >> i hope that whatever comes out they get it over with. th...