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The president. the galup tracking poll shows obama up six points. it's pretty hard to survey the polling data and not come to the conclusion that barack obama is beating mitt romney, that if the election were held today barack obama would win and that romney has a relatively steep though certainly not insurmountable uphill climb to victory. that is if you operate in the alternate epi stem mick universe of the media. >> that begs the question, are these polls dishonest? >> no. look, we endo you them with a falls scientific precision. >> these polls, i don't pay attention to them. >> polling is ...

Have this. we believe you're entitled to food. i think when you look at what's the thing that's pushed the polls apart, there's the convention bounce. look at the internals in florida and ohio. look at florida. huge swing from romney to obama among those 65 and soolder in august. today he's up 4. so -- and we see what the actual results are. obama is now beating mitt romney. he was down. ohio polling. obama was down 8 points among people 65 and older. today he is up 1. i think that's -- and he writes persuasively that republicans, again, get smoking what they were dealing thinking that their d...

Everything is a lie. >> it's also funny because a lot of the paul ryan supporters, it's not politics. it's math. liberals talk about science and now conservatives are like all of this budget stuff, sorry, is just math. we have to slash medicare and so forth. so it is funny that the party of math now is like creating their own -- >> alternate polling. >> sheila, i want to get your thoughts on this. i want to note for people watching this, josh, you worked on mitt romney's 2002 gubernatorial campaign. >> that's right. >> you've been a republican -- i don't know if you are a registered republican...

>> i'm going to retire. >> that's right. off the royalties from that. if only. if only every writer in america -- >> isn't that how it works? >> isn't that how it works? i found the polling stuff to be kind of remarkable this week. you know, the polling i think, look, let's not overstate how accurate polls are. there's margins of error and it's also possible that we are systematically getting something wrong. there were models in the big wall street banks tharp systematically miss pricing real estate. i think if you're empirically minded and look at the data, the president is winning the race....

State republican presidential primary it's so far a surprisingly low budget, low-key affair. >> it doesn't mean anecdotally watching how it's played out on the ground but a lot of momentum for any one candidate. >> if anyone has momentum in ohio it appears to be rick santorum. the real clear politics average of ohio polling has him in front of romney with gingrich trailing. >> it's clear now. santorum is one that can beat romney and can beat obama. >> in a new fox news poll in ohio, santorum beats obama and so does romney, all within the margin of error. ohio's political landscape may help san...