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As controls the congress shouldn't mean that we're not going to worry about the fact that the president is receiving unconstitutional payoffs from foreign governments. it's up to congress to do it's job of congressional executive branch. >> okay norm, is donald trump doing anything right? is the trump family doing anything that you see as a positive. i think back the fundraiser issue that you see a few weeks ago that they were removed from it. the transition officials will say hey, we're workingen to basically. >> there have been some positive signs, the procrastination. several times now wher...

And you have a new paper too. norm, you said the president-elect is basically cordingisaster here. with his businesses, 18 days away fromecoming president. it is fairly clear he has not going to fully die vest. it is congress obligated to hold his accountable? >> congress, the courts, hallie, your profession, journalism is obligated, and all of us are obligated to do all we can, because the president-elect is on a collision course with corruption. this is not just a matter of what looks or smells good. and it doesn't look good. it doesn't smell good. it is the constitution. there's a constitut...

Other congressional effort. senator warren has announced that this week she and her democratic colleagues in the senate are going to put in a bill requiring the president to do a blind trust, putting teeth into the clause making clear what it means, the kinds of benefits we were talking about. there are some in the senate who are taking some positive steps as well. but on the other hand, then you hear that the house wants the house leadership wants to go -- >> oc -- >> independent office of congressional ethics. it's like a cancer that is starting to spread. we don't have to follow ethics rule...