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Director of national intelligence james clapper managed to bring him and another american prisoner home in 2014. not all cases have resulted in positive outcomes. university of virginia student otto warmbier was returned to the u.s. in a coma and that i -- died shortly thereafter. a few committed suicide after returning home. some described their treatment in prison as worse than death. >> shannon: jennifer griffin, thank you very much. for more, let's bring in fox news contributor judy miller. olivia enis, policy editor with the heritage foundation. >> nice to be with you. >> shannon: there's...

Withdrawal with iran on its own but i am not sure it has grand implications for north korea. the north koreans are probably doing this because they feel they want to warm rest because they need to gain some time, if time is not working against them or for them, until we know more about what is in chairman kim's head, it is very hard to . maybe dennis rodman knows more at this point about what's in his head than any of us. >> shannon: very quickly, olivia, will be know what is going on inside of his mind? getting into the table, plenty of skeptics including the president. >> i think we can't kn...

Pompeo. he was there in his capacity as cia director. it is hard to know how the president is making these decisions, to whom he lessons, whether or not this was on his mind from the very beginning, as you pointed out, shannon, he has been all over the map on what he said about north korea and about kim. i do agree with olivia. i have been very critical, by the way, of the decision to withdraw unilaterally from the iran deal. but i'm not necessarily certain that these two perspectives, nuclear deals, are related. i think that until we know more about what is motivating chairman kim, until we k...

A high-stakes gamble. i don't want to bring in human rights right now. i think the release of these three was a precondition as far as the americans were concerned for this meeting, the north koreans want to face meeting and that is why there is hostages being released. >> shannon: judy and olivia, much more to discuss. we want you guys to stick around and come back so we could have much more on this topic as we await these hostages. thank you all, we'll see you shortly. those three american hostages are heading home from north korea. u.s. pastor andrew bronson, you've heard us talk about his ...

Let's bring up our panel. judy miller and olivia enos as we await. we will talk about how we get to this point. thank you for sticking around. i want to play something, the conversation that has been about president trump withdrawing the u.s. from the iran deal. critics who say that's going to hurt his ability to be able to negotiate with north koreans, that they'll trust he'll stick to a deal. g.o.p. senator joni ernst. >> i think quite the opposite. i think that we are sending a very clear message to north korea to keep itself straight or we will come after them. we did that with iran as wel...