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Recently. a lot of us expected that abc would either stay silent or simply discipline her or maybe suspend her, what have you. but it is a relief to see that there are in fact social consequences for these kinds of statements. they hired her knowing that she was a conspiracy theorist on twitter. they hired her knowing about her anti-semitic and racist statements and islamophobic statements. and they, you know, rode it out this long. and i think when you get to the old school racist term "ape," i think that may be a bridge too far for anyone. >> listen to what valerie jarrett said about this on...

It costs jobs. sometimes it costs lives. we can't set up anymore. >> jason johnson and jamil smith, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, we're going to have more on the roseanne story and what it would have meant to abc to keep the roseanne show on the air. what it would have meant to every other actor working in every other abc show and what they would have had to say about it. we'll be right back. or plan for tomorrow? at kpmg, we believe success requires both. with our broad range of services and industry expertise, kpmg can help you anticipate tomorrow an...

Long they had to answer questions about donald trump before he got elected president. i mean, it was a year and a half of reporters saying is he going to be in "the apprentice"? are you going to cancel "the apprentice"? what's going to happen? and multiply that by all the people who are at the network. i do think that for abc, we had a couple of things in play here. we had the fact that abc's owned by disney, and disney has a very definite family-friendly, inclusive brand that bob iger has defended quite often. and there was a sense that this kind of statement violated that. and certainly they...

Who called bob ago ier? by that i mean among the prominent people working at abc, as actor, as writers, as show creator, show runners, who called and said i can't continue at abc if roseanne continues at abc. >> well, we know that wanda sykes, who is a writer on the show. >> that was huge. >> walked away. she tweeted publicly. this wasn't something -- this was necessarily discussion behind closed doors. she took a very public stand and saying i'm giving up this paycheck because this is just intolerable. >> wanda sykes -- >> there was another actress as well there was another actress as well, t...

Blackish. i'd watch that. it would be funny. but most of the people are not going to have work. it's not just about making people feel bad. it costs money. it costs jobs. sometimes it costs lives. we can't set up anymore. >> jason johnson and jamil smith, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, we're going to have more on the roseanne story and what it would have meant to abc to keep the roseanne show on the air. what it would have meant to every other actor working in every other abc show and what they would have had to say about it. we'll be right back. how to...