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Minute if the talks will be worthwhile. this is madness. i don't say this casually, at what point do we ask, is the president off his rocker much michael? you want to take that? >> i don't know that he's off his rocker, but he's the donald trump he's always been. >> he focuses on the moment at hand. he's saying america has no friends and noenemies. it's whatever happens right now. >> if kim offers him something spectacular, he could walk out of this meeting beaming about denuclearization, the north koreans could get something enormous in return . and our allies in asia will be shaking their he...

Denuclearization stands in contrast. which is complete -- using the phrase peninsula for the north koreans. nonnuclear capable forces -- they're trying to bake american concessions into how they talk about denuclearization. >> it means that the united states would change its nuclear umbrella. there are nuclear capable plains that fly in and over north korea. it's interesting that the administration chose to shift their language on the eve of that meeting. kim jong-un has sacrificed so much and spent so much to build up this nuclear arsenal. you can argue the fact that they now have it, they ha...

Korea would give up. and the views of what denuclearization actually means. >> adam mounts is a senior fellow at the academy of sciences. a political one maybe a military one more than a science question. >> mike pompeo said the u.s. goal is the denuclearization of the korean peninsula. which is language a lot closer to what the north kree answer have been pushing for some time. >> explain to our viewers what that means and why it might mean ultimately concessions from the united states. >>. >> on is a term of art the north koreans have used for several years now, it's something they've commit...

Korea has found the last 25, 30 years. the president of the united states said even before he took office. i'm going to solve this problem. he may solve it, but it's not going to be solved as quickly as he wants. there's going to be a three part communique stock market. one will deal with denuclearization, as discussed. it's interesting that mike pompeo is beginning to use the same phrase north koreans use, which is complete verifiable denuclearization on the korean peninsula. which means we may need to do some things as well to pull back -- >> that's a linguistic concession. >> we'll have to ...

To go to war with canada, which is maybe our closest ally in values. >> the president's transactional. that's how people describe him when they try to make sense of why he would ignore something and embrace another thing, ignore human rights in order to get a deal on denuclearization. what do you say to those who say it is worth it. i'm sorry about the human rights, i know it is awful but what we need is to make the world safer and denuclearization would get to that point. so a utilitarian view. >> i'm sympathetic to the view that the priority should be denuclearization and i would not want to...