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Rick perry, a lot of things you might not like about rick perry, on hispanic issues, he was not sort of donald trump republican. >> texas is different. i would say texas is where california was under pete wilson. right now you have greg abbott, who is not rick perry, who has this against -- >> kirkpatrick, the goth governor, makes him look like a moderate. >> exactly. >> i want people to think not only is donald trump trying to disrupt the texas life with a border wall. have you abbott and a couple other bad applesin that case. you have a rising latino community that is now majority minority i...

Pass. they can make a show about doing what they promised to do, but for delivering it to voters that will be very hard to do. >> where are you, on one hand you don't want the democrats to get rolled on the anymore graduation and border security issue. but they do need to be getting in on other issues. >> i think they are looking at what can they pass in the house. let's be clear, the president lost three million people in the popular vote when he was going on immigration. he lost when it came to the midterm elections. he lost the government shut down over immigration. >> do you think democrat...