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That is why it is good we're having this conference committee to try to do that. again maybe then we can get into a step by step process to address a number of these issues. >> how do you define amnesty? >> well, allowing people to, in essence, come to the country and not following the rules and requirements of coming here legally. so that is something that we have to do is make sure that is addressed in a way where people feel it is not amnesty. >> do you believe -- the problem with the word is, as you know, that is why i asked you for a basic definition. some people think that what you suppo...

Issues. >> you're saying because gang of eight was for a different president, a different make up of the deciders, republican house democratic senate, does that make it harder to support? >> we need something that can pass, and something that has the principals that the president laid out. the type of hapackage that we c get passed. >> there is a movement to end shut downs as we know it, right? how to make them impossible in some form, whether it is make sure the paychecks go out no matter what, where are you on those bills? >> can you ask that question again? >> the idea of trying to end shut...

They're not really thinking about a infrastructure program. they're looking forward to the world. it is the issues. they believe that government is so divided this. >> democrats look like they're going to call for the president 40 to 08%. >> duo not support a medieval border wall from see it shieping sea, but we are willing to support fencing where it makes sense. >> do you see as part of that agreement any provision for funding a new barrier between

To restore bipartisanship which means compromise. which democratic party is the party right now? the party of 2018 or the party of 2020. joining me now is robert costa, reporting for "the washington post". michael steele, former rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst. and teresa. robert, you're on the satellite and i like to give satellite folks the first shot. about the only thing that the white house can take away from the horrible start is that they're playing on their issue and they have not allowed the democrats to start on their issues. do they have a desire to move on from border secu...

They will play next season. he said he would have an answer about where the raiders will play next season. let's go to the videotape. >> those issues are issues that the raiders are taking the lead on. they have been having a variety of discussions with officials, looking at their options, making sure they evalway that. >> how about colin kaepernick. roger goodell had surprisingly little to say. >> our clubs are the ones that make the decision on who they want on their roster. they make that individually in the best interest of their team. >> sure they do. that's just this year, everybody. the...