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Some other way. but it is quite -- it would be very unusual. >> steve, you supervised the last investigation into the u.s. embassy attack in nairobi. this team of eight agents on the ground in kenya right now, we're talking to them but we understand their focus right now is solely forensics. exactly what does that entail? is eight agents enough? >> well, eight agents isn't enough. i supervised the attack on the u.s. embassy attack on karachi, pakistan just to be clear. but eight agents is not enough. you saw the size of that hole in the ground. you couldn't excavate it and get the information ...

>> well, eight agents isn't enough. i supervised the attack on the -- the u.s. embassy attack on karachi, pakistan. you saw the hole and the size of the ground. you couldn't excavate it and get what you need. you would need dozens and dozens of agents. looking at that crime scene plus the rest of the mall, i'd need over 100 agents to work that. mine if you want to lose that for a year, fine, but you're going to lose a lot of evidence on the way. >> a hundred agents. it seemed a lot of the evidence is outside in terms of the parking deck. >> it's not going to be so bad here because it's nonan e...