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The country in the last few weeks as it thought about this, thought about iraq, the arguments, has moved against this. >> katrina, perhaps the country doesn't know what it wants. >> i think the country does. the term "war weary" has become cliched. many in the base, not just the base but across the board. president obama was elected to extricate this country from two very, very long wars. i think the country is in a mode not to rebuild this country, not disengage from the world. there are isolationists. but i think this is an extraordinary moment. i value that the president had the courage, re...

That's the problem. >> bush and them let it be corrupt is what they wanted. of course they walk away this one. look, the response would have been entirely different if it would have been off of nantucket. and by the way, katrina would have been entirely different. >> this administration has been in business for a year and a half. >> well, of course, and the federal government at this point has to come in and take responsibility. notice, though, barack obama is getting worse grades than george bush got on katrina. federal government is getting worse grades, that's for sure. >> they knew it was ...

This is not a battle of talking points. these are lives being affected every day. >> if this were happening off of new jersey or north carolina or chesapeake bay would the government have reacted differently? >> i don't know. i don't think so. >> of course they would. of course. >> i don't know that they would. >> of course they would. >> i think, look, he's going to be more critical of the government than i am. look, i think after katrina, everybody knew you had to take this kind of thing seriously. there isn't a competence it seems. i know james is critical of the market, but the government ...

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