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It's an open race. >> they can only tell you today. they can't tell you what a campaign's going to do. >> to a degree, you can trust the average of polls and if she's dropping big double digit numbers across an average of polling, that means something. >> i think it's interesting when it's tied to a certain policy. as opposed to just horse race. >> the thing about polls is these republic polls when campaign operatives. we look at where you can go get votes. we use polling differently. so that's -- and we make decisions based on -- >> microtarget. >> that's how we make our decisions. so when yo...

Polling, that means something. >> i think it's interesting when it's tied to a certain policy. as opposed to just horse race. >> the thing about polls is these republic polls when campaign operatives. we look at where you can go get votes. we use polling differently. so that's -- and we make decisions based on -- >> microtarget. >> that's how we make our decisions. so when you see national polls, they really are just a snap shot. they don't tell you where you're going. >> if you were warren's campaign and you're microtargeting, what would you be doing? >> i don't know what their data says. i c...