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The debate's next wednesday. what's something you're looking at between now and the debate to see what develops? >> you have these competing drum beats, wikileaks on one side, the drip, drip, drip of allegations on the other side, women coming forward. i think the wikileaks narrative is potentially very effective for donald trump, because it makes a case that this is a politician. i am not a politician. yes, i say some things that are, maybe troubling to people, but this is not who i've been for a long time. she's been this politics for however many years. and this shows how she is not on your...

>> i would say we need a no fly zone, need to create and carve out a safe area, working with the turks up on the turkish border and creating an area where the refugees can feel safe until there is a solution, a political one hopefully in syria. then they can go back to their homes. there is 7 million of them outside the country. >> 7 million. i don't think anybody who is on the good side of this would disagree with you, we need a no fly zone. i'm guessing that russia is expecting us to do exactly that. i wonder how they with react. would they respect the no fly zone or not? >> the closest piec...

Down for a talk. he's kind of taking her temperature on where a progressive endorsement might be for him on that. >> what do you think will be his approach here? if he gets in, he's late, so he's got to have a big bang or big opening splash. >> it's interesting, i was thinking about the splashes we've seen so far. the surprising ones would be from the donald on one side, and feeling the burn, bernie sanders on the other side. i think to some extent the splash there would be that joe biden is someone who is very much beloved by many people in the democratic party, by many constituents out there...

Also even within conservative ranks about whether or not isolating a country, continuing to isolate will bring down this regime or pouring in market money will bring down the castros, finally, finally. and we're going to see. now we'll get a chance to see. >> the rest of the world that has already been there in cuba. >> you know, at the end of the day, this is a very serious decision to be made. and my issue is why don't we have a national discussion? why don't we bring the congress in? the country just elected a republican congress. they're the ones to have to lift the sanction. why don't we ...

That they have -- >> absolutely. >> -- they have stepped forward and have done what they said they were going to do to this point, but the inspections need to increase. what do you make of that? >> well, you're exactly right. and the first six months were the easy part. with iran, freezing in place and stepping down from some of its enrichment, but now comes the hard part, the technical side where they have to really give something up. and so far, the ayatollah has not been willing to do that. it's believed there is a division in the iranian government between zarif, the foreign minister, rouh...