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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:32:00

So what do you make of the ramaswamy effect? interesting, i think ramaswamy annoyed a lot of people on the stage, in the audience, and at home. that s not a disqualifier. i think what was unique about ramaswamy is he was the closest trump surrogate on that stage than anybody else. when ron desantis super pac released the memo that said defend donald trump, ramaswamy was the one that actually took that advice and it paid off for him. i think the attacks by haley on ramaswamy were heard. i think last night the four on the survivor island are ramaswamy, desantis, haley and pence. i think i d have to agree with that but throw in chris christie just because he s not going to go away and he wasn t prehand, which is the opening of the debate was rough to watch because so many of the ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:33:00

Candidates were sticking to their pre-can lines and in the era of trump no one wants that. and you can tell the absence of trump, it was pretty glaring he wasn t there. it was. and that was part of the appeal of ramaswamy. he was unique. i think it s hard sometimes to put ourselves in the shoes of republican primary voters. but rom swamary or desantis for being awkward or whatever it was, were actually using the words and speaking the words republican voters wanted to hear. sometimes we dismiss that. well, i think the big issue that divided the candidates on stage and it s when i go into focus groups and you re talking to republican voters, it divides them, too, what to do about ukraine and being more isolationist and staying out, and then those republicans who want to go hard will take on putin. and who won that debate last night? haley and pence because they showed their experience. right, they relied on their strength of experience that the others didn t have, and they ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:31:00

Go after ron desantis. and ron desantis showed himself to be that uniquely unlikable, unsteady odd duck on the stage. when you were in congress, you served in congress with him. yeah, we ran against each other for over a year. look, i don t think ron desantis hurt himself or helped himself, which coming out of a debate is probably fine for ron desantis. he still has a ton of money, but i think what he still has to look out for it was the vivek show. the story is ramaswamy. and if ramaswamy gained 5 or 6 points all of a sudden ron desantis is in third. i was interested in who was getting cheered and booed throughout the night. and vivek ramaswamy like him or not, he had a lot of energy in the auditorium, and he was getting booed. and that auditorium was filled mostly with donors, and that s a donor audience. and nikki haley got a lot of clears for taking on ramaswamy, but then the boos were there. ....

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