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Go ahead quickly. >> that may be a slight misreading joy of the audience. the audience may be broader than the dem graphic that would agree. from that standpoint. i don't think there is a lot of african-americans watching this show, on a & e. >> one thing about the net works. they have the research. they know who their audience is. >> down to the decimal point. >> gene. >> jimmy: -- and joy, none of us having seen duck dynasty. a swing at hillary clinton over the old iraq war vote. ♪

But he could have his vote. let the thing go through. >> i actually think that there has been an ideological shift. not just because -- worry about primaries. when you have rand paul out there saying, listen, if you give people more than 26 weeks. it hurts them. and they don't go looking for jobs. and this patronizing, condescending view towards the unemployed which was always there. i think it has become kind of the majority position. it's what paul ryan was talking about in his speech at the convention last year. so, it's not just -- you know -- matter of what, makes sense politically. i thi...

Your rehakttiaction to the stat? >> it is stunning to hear it because of it being 2013. at the time during the 1960s, polls at the time showed a bare majority of whites believed there was equal opportunity in american society for blacks and whites. right? a bubble that a lot of white americans in south lived in at the time. as far as they know. they had little contact. african-americans in their normal daily social life. as far as they knew everything was fine. it was fine for them. sort of an unreconstructed southern view of his region senate was actually fairly common at the time. a lot of w...

That has been cast in the country. so it is there. it's certainly couldn't have the potency that it had in 2007, 2008. i just, i really do genuinely find it hard to predict it as a factor. >> that's exactly right, lawrence. i think the other thing to remember, if hillary clinton decide to run. which we don't know if she will. >> come on. come on on this show she is running. she is running. >> for you i will say, so great to my dad last night at the holiday party. but i think, the point of it is, she has also got a very good answer for why. and either you agreen with it or you disagree. the poi...

Amount you like. if you can contribute $10. that will be combined with contributions and help us deliver a desk or pay a girl's tuition fees. and $10 will buy a lot of soap in malawi. on facebook. brenda reader told us i donated to the kind fund for two desks and one girl's scholarship. my husband asked what i wanted for christmas. the only thing i could think of. i can just imagine the kids sitting at the desks. when the girl find out that someone in the world cared enough about her to send her to school, it brings tears to my eyes. educate a girl and you educate many generations to come. >> ...