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This, though, is about fairness. it's fairness and sentencing, and when you talk about 14 years, john heilemann, i today could go to illinois, or go to the federal dockets and i could -- it would take me -- because, you know, i've practiced law for a little while, i could find a dozen cases in ten minutes, basically pled out this week. this week in illinois. that would make this sentence look outrageous. >> well, willie just pointed out, that's a pretty stark statistic that the average sex offender sentences five years less than rod blagojevich. >> maybe that's the problem. >> that's obviously...

>> people that kill, people that kill other people are sentenced to less time than rod blagojevich. >> all i'm saying, for the record is, it seems excessive, i'm kind of not surprised that he got an excessive sentence. >> true. true. >> given the case. >> well, but we only agree with you because it came from a female's voice. >> if acting like an ass was a felony, i'd be in jail right now. >> joe's already living in jail for that. >> let's go to mike's story. next, talking about numbers that are shocking. >> this is -- >> now, this is a political earthquake occurring right now. not just the re...

The s&p 500 fell 24. the nasdaq gave back 57. there was plenty of talking elsewhere in washington about jobs, economy, and the debt. correspondent doug mckelway reports that in one session, a political ally of the president did not sound like much of a fan. >> if last week's report of 9.2% unemployment further stirred the station's nick unease, nowhere more apparent than at today's afl-cio jobs forum where host richard trumka spared no party or leader from the venom. asked if president obama is a friend, trumka said this -- >> he is a second cousin. [ laughter ] >> we put him in the category...

Entertainment business, you're lucky to get seven, eight years. we're going on what, how many? >> 48 years. >> 48 years now. >> incredible. >> and its consistently, too, even in the show i say how grateful can i be, and i know we're both so grateful. we always knew we'd do something together again but to be in las vegas. >> if i spent 14 hours with my sister, bottles would start being thrown in my drex. >> believe me, bottles are thrown backstage. >> i have heard that about you. >> it wouldn't be by me. it would be at me. >> let's call it the way it is. we rub each other wrong every once in a ...

We're going on what, how many? >> 48 years. >> 48 years now. >> incredible. >> and its consistently, too, even in the show i say how grateful can i be, and i know we're both so grateful. we always knew we'd do something together again but to be in las vegas. >> if i spent 14 hours with my sister, bottles would start being thrown in my direction. >> believe me, bottles are thrown backstage. >> i have heard that about you. >> it wouldn't be by me. it would be at me. >> let's call it the way it is. we rub each other wrong every once in a while, but that's what works for done indiana and marie on ...