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Stage. then, you know, that will be considered provocative and seems like the mtv video music awards is all about doing something more provocative than they did last year and this is a matter of one upsmanship or one downsmanship. >> it's a way to make money. is that a problem? >> it is her choice, her career. she has succeeded at making lindsay lohan look better, that's remarkable. makes katy perry look like a nun. she's worth $120 million to $150 million. the song is number three on the charts. she doesn't need to do this to get better known. she is trying to be an adult star now. it's despe...

You were like 4 years old at the time? that was considered the end of western civilization. and then 2013 miley does this. 2033 we're probably going to look back on this and miley and her daughter having birth on stage. then, you know, that will be considered provocative and seems like the mtv video music awards is all about doing something more provocative than they did last year and this is a matter of one upsmanship or one downsmanship. >> it's a way to make money. is that a problem? >> it is her choice, her career. she has succeeded at making lindsay lohan look better, that's remarkable. m...