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Nishl initials and talking about trade and itc et cetera but he talked about a couple other things in response to your question. >> reporter: a couple things here, hallie, both related to what you were just talking about your guest on set. the first one i asked him if he thinks that the president has the abilito pardon himself. he said that he wasn't sure about the technicality of that, whether it wctually technically legal, but he was pretty definitive in saying obviously the president shouldn't do that. and then he said, quote, no one is above the law. so a relatively definitive response fro...

Statements reveal the fact that he has seen that there's really no there there. he understands as a propser, as a good lawyer, as do many other lawyers on the hill, and it was refreshing to hear that. >> onef things that paul ryan was asked about is the president's comment that he could pard donna himself although he has no reason to. the president's been talking a lot about pardons, he's been thinking a lotbo pardons. and kristening we ker is joining us on the white house north lawn with more on those pardons because we may be seeingmore of of months, uh? >> reporter: we might pibt jube. i ju...

>> maybe irresponsible in the words of greg, alexi, and zeke, but it seems as rudy giuliani, and he has, has made the intentional strategy that this works. this will persuade the president's base that in fac the special counsel investigation is not legitimate? >> thissn't about the law for thesident's perspective, it's aboutpolitics, the ultimate recourse here is if things go really south for the president this will end up in impeachment. that's a political process run by lawmakers who are accountable to their voters. this will be argued out in the kofrt public opinion much less in a kof in a ...

And regardless of party and time, first ladies are always special to the american people and they're welfare is always a concern. white house has been scant in detail about her condition since she was hospitalized and then returned to the white house. it's been about a month and of course everyone can acknowledge d wish her well in her recovery. but we know so little about it which has created a vacuum which has filled speculation and we have on a regular basis, you and i and our team checked in with her office trying to find out more information. curiosy w raise when'd she's not going te g-7....

The rumors, you know, this stuff is not things we've reported. but he put it out there and so now it is available to dissect. >> and, kelly, as you rightly note, you, i, our colleagues in the white house have reached out to the first lady's office which has repeatedly said she's been holding staff meet rrgs she's been deang with long-term plan, she's been doing things internally but she hasn't been out in public and she won't b for r w hours. let me ask you one other thing. as we look at this revng door on the inside, with the trump administration maybe welcoming back a person who has just ann...