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Joining me is utah's senator romney, who will officially be sworn in tomorrow. senator-elect, thank you for being here. >> thanks, jake. good to be with you. >> so why write this op-ed and why do it now? >> i actually wrote a very similar op-ed before i got into the primary in utah and laid out my views with regards to the president and his presidency. and noted that i will work with the president, as i would, frankly, with any president, which is on those areas where i'm in agreement, we'll be able to work together. where i disagree, i'll point that out. but in matters that relate to the divi...

>> it was really these allegations and how they were handled by him, that changed the metrics, the question that's in the air is no longer about executive privilege or even about settled law and whatever that means to him about roe versus wade. it's about temperament. are you okay with that? >> i am not okay with his temperament. and i sat in the room, i could feel his rage throughout his testimony. i felt like he was acting as though he was a political operative, he was very volatile, i've said numerous times, if a woman had acted like that during a line of questioning, she would have been co...

I've said numerous times, if a woman had acted like that during a line of questioning, she would have been considered unhinged. also, let's talk about this op ed for a second. if a woman had written that op ed apologizing for their behavior and saying, i'm so sorry, i was emotional, but i was there as a mother, as a daughter. i mean, we would -- the double standard is unbelievable, we would be laughing at this woman, saying she's weak, or she doesn't have the character. >> yeah, but the irony wasn't lost that christine ford is someone who is coming from a place of pain and was so poised. >> ye...