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It's methodical, we always point out the caveat, there is not a minority here that's pushing back or questioning the other way, but it leads up to january 6th, the concern that it might "get real, real bad" in the days before, the concern that the proud boys and oath keepers would be there, the concern there would be weapons on the mall and then radio transmission that they saw weapons, ar-15s and others. and the testimony the president was really concerned about the crowd, that they were not allowed in through the magnotometers, he wanted the crowd to be bigger, more robust, and she was there...

I would say two other things. on the issue of incitement, i've stressed, john has stressed, it's a complex legal issue and relevant that trump said peacefully march, which is something they continue to leave out. however -- not the only charge that's relevant here. >> government officials, including members of congress, and what this testimony shows as bret was just pointing out, the president we now know knew powerfully that there was a heavily armed crowd that he was basically encouraging doing down to the capitol. >> john: andy, sorry to interrupt. >> attended rallies january 5th. on januar...

Floor speech, did you listen? yeah, it was good, did you like it? i said yeah, do you know where he's at right now? he said no, i haven't heard from him. i said you might want to check in with him, mark. and i remember pointing at the tv, the rioters are getting close. they might get in. and he looked at me and said something to the effect of all right, i'll give him a call. >> not long after the rioters broke into the capitol you described what happened with white house counsel pat cipollone. >> no more than a minute, a minute and a half later i see pat cipollone barrelling down the hallways ...

Later. much later. 4:17 p.m., donald trump finally told the rioters to go home and that he loves them. here is portion of the video president trump recorded from the white house. >> we have to have peace. so go home, we love you, you are very special, you have seen what happens, you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. i know how you feel. but go home and go home in peace. >> but as we will show in even greater detail in future hearings, donald trump was reluctant to put this message out. and he still could not bring himself to condemn the attack. miss hutchinson has tol...

I recall him being reluctant to film the video on the 6th, i was not involved in any of the planning for that video. i remember seeing the video go out and feeling a little shocked after it went out. >> on the evening of january 6th, and the day after, the president's family and his senior staff and others tried to encourage the president to condemn the violence and commit to the peaceful transition of power. at 3:31 p.m. on january 6th, sean hannity of fox news texted mark meadows. he said "can he make a statement? i saw the tweet. ask people to leave the capitol." later that evening, mr. han...