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With the post election period. director ratcliff felt that it wasn't something that the white house should be pursuing. it felt like it was dangerous for the president's legacy. he had expressed to me that he was concerned it could spiral out of control and potentially be dangerous, either for our democracy or the way that things were going to the 6th. >> when you say it was not something -- [inaudible] >> trying to fight the results of the election. find missing ballots, pressuring -- filing lawsuits in

Explanation and taking a few seconds for mark, and i said mark, did you hear him? and then mark chimed in like all right, anything else? still looking down at his phone. and tony looked at me and i looked at tony, do you have any questions? like what are you hearing? and i looked at tony and like he just told you about what was happening out at the rally, i know, and then he looked up and said have you talked to the president? and tony said yes, sir, he's aware, all right, good. >> he asked tony if he had informed the president and he said yes he had. >> is it your understanding mr. ornato tol...

Lunch against the wall, which was causing them to have to clean up. so i grabbed a towel and started wiping the ketchup off the wall to help the valet out, and he said something to the effect of he's really ticked off about this. i would stay clear of him for right now. he's really, really ticked off about this right now. >> miss hutchinson, was this the only instance that you are aware of where the president threw dishes? >> it's not. >> and are there other instances in the dining room that you recall where he expressed his anger? >> there were several times throughout my tenure with the chie...

Members of the oath keepers allegedly serving as his security detail. as we now know, multiple members of that organization have been charged with or pled guilty to crimes associated with january 6th. mr. stone has invoked his fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination against this committee. general michael flynn has also taken the fifth before this committee. mr. stone previously had been convicted of other federal crimes unrelated to january 6th. general flynn had pleaded guilty to a felony charge also pre-dating and unrelated to january 6th. president trump pardoned general flynn...

On. we spent a lot of time on the hill, and i was his liason for capitol hill. travelling engagements, mostly i was there to serve what the chief of staff needed and lot of times what the chief of staff needed was reflection what the president was scheduled and detailed to do that day. >> so fair to say that you spoke regularly in your position both with members of congress and with senior members of the trump administration? >> that's correct, that's a fair assessment, sir. >> and would you say that in your work with mr. meadows you were typically in contact with him and others in the white h...