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For the birds. you know, it's destroying this country. and he'll make it better again. >> i just want to see what he has to offer and see if he seems sincere about it. >> so are you here as a supporter? someone who's open minded? or -- >> i'm independent. i'm real open-minded. >> okay. are you from vermont? >> yes. >> so what's your reaction when you hear he's getting potentially 20,000 people who rsvped to come today? >> you never know how many people are not going to show or -- i mean, that is a little bit crazy. and that's why i'm here so early. but you don't know in this day and age if the...

Going to happen today in the town that had bernie sanders as its mayor for a long time. nobody knew how it would turn out. nobody knew how many of the people who turned out actually would be donald trump supporters. and particularly for the national media i think nobody quite knew what donald trump supporters from vermont might actually be like. >> so where are you from? are you from vermont? >> yep. vermont. >> vermont. are you a republican? democrat? >> i'm a republican. >> got it. >> yep. >> and is this -- >> yes, it is. >> what's he said that attracted you to him? >> he's not a career poli...

>> what do you think when you think about donald trump? >> aggressive, nonsensnonsensicr the top. >> not a strong christian. >> straightforward. i think he's intelligent. he's conniving. >> intelligent, businessman, open-minded. >> arrogant, winner. >> he's still leading in iowa, but is that your dinner party conversation? is that how it goes? >> i don't -- i don't believe almost any of these polls. the record of polling in iowa is a joke. you've got the pollsters now coming out in numerous articles in recent days saying don't actually believe our own data. you have gallup yesterday made the a...

A real choice. >> i would love that that would be great. >> i would too. that's not going to happen. i know you live in fantasy land. >> no, i don't. >> you know peter pan personally. i know you do. i have seen you with him. >> i think you and karl rove live -- >> i have nothing in common with karl rove. i don't do that kind of stuff. >> no, no, no. i know you don't. but you are agreeing with him. >> i'm not agreeing with him. i'm telling you what the strategy is i'm not agreeing with it. >> i know what the strategy is i'm telling you that it's the same strategy that gets us nowhere. >> okay. ...

Music? by the way, get those happy meals away from children. remember when san francisco tried to stop restaurants from handing out toys in kids' meals that lacked the right amount of fruits and vegetables. kids don't go to mcdonald's for fruits and vegetables. this is from a city that prides itself on being open-minded. back in 2002, before he took on the sugary soda earbuds, michael bloomberg pushed a ban on trans fats in new york restaurants. is that something the new york mayor should be worried about? is it the government's job to make us better people? david, i want you to weigh in becau...