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Open primary. the democrat behind there. not the number republicans w wanted to see. this one, jaime herrera beutler. running with 42% in this primary. that is a trouble sign. sorts of indicator when they pop up. is there a trend, is there a pattern. and this wasn't a primary, but something that we have been talking about. chris collins, republican from new york. under indictment. he is running. it was a district that was on nobody's radar until 24 hours ago because president trump carried this thing by 24 points. if collins stayed in this race, this is republican, and maytrum

Show what we have been talking about this entire time. >> tucker: kind of obvious in retrospect. did you really think in a free and fair, open primary, of all the potential democratic candidates, hillary clinton, who lost in 2008 the same scenario, would have been chosen as the nominee? >>e you know, i think that the way it was set up with bernie sanders not having the name recognition, that hurt him in some respects. but to look at people who did not even know who bernie was to now be, according to some polls, one of the most popular politicians in america, a lot of ground could have been mad...

What everyone is trying to figure out is, who is running? if christie and jeb and mitt run, who are you going to line up with? >> here's the other thing. the bigger issue is that every sort of primary, open primary since 1988, which wasn't a particularly contested primary has gone down like this. the gop establishment likes a certain person, a lot of institutions support rallies behind them. the base is skeptical or hostile but the establishment nominee wins in the end. it's george h.w. bush, bob dole, mitt romney. do we reach some breaking point post citizens united where that rule fails to h...

Something that looks a lot more like as we get into war lordism. and the failed state metaphor to extend it like something that looks like the rudiments of a political party. that's what the koch brothers look like they're building. >> the team that has all the capacity to on its own decide to effect the course of the primary is the koch operation. they have the data, the ground organization, the ground troops. they have the ground troops. they have the money. so if they want to put that switch and for the first time get involved seriously in a primary. >> in a primary. prenomination. i'd resp...

Candidates, one that their candidate might lose, and the pressure is on. according to a report in "new york times" today, chit chit and bush have luhr begun pushing top funders to commit to them. donors worry they'll be split into competing camps and have to raise millions of dollars in for a bloody primary and provide a path for a rand paul or ted cruz who the big money donors think have little chance to win the presidency. here's the thing. in the post citizens united world the members of the g.o.p. traditional donor class, millionaires and billionaires are rather amazingly the little guys. ...