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>> are there rovers that can do that? >> yeah, the bluefin-21 can do that. if they're read at that operating depth they probably don't want to chance losing the vehicle. phoenix international is very capable of figuring this out so i am sure they have other things, plan b in the back of their mind. that is the team out there operating the tpl and the bluefin-21. >> and these are private teams that are contracted? >> yeah, it is a company out of largo. >> how deep can an unmanned vehicle go? >> we have vehicles that can go to 6,000 meters, 95% of the sea floor. just on the other side of austral...

>> yeah, the bluefin-21 can do that. and it's right at that operating depth, they're not going to want to chance losing the vehicle. >> so are there vehicles that can go farther down? >> sure. phoenix international is very capable of figuring this out so i am sure they have other things, plan b in the back of their mind. that is the team out there operating the tpl and the bluefin-21. >> and these are private teams that are contracted? >> yeah, it is a company out of largo. >> how deep can an unmanned vehicle go? >> we have vehicles that can go to 6,000 meters, 20,000 feet. that's about 95% of...

Specification says 14,763 feet. but obviously, the ocean at this point could be a little bit deeper than that. it's not fully mapped. so they don't know. i know any change in depth at that far below the surface, it could be an incredible change in pressure. is the bluefin able to operate outside its formal range if it needed to? >> yes. the bluefin standard 21 that phoenix has is rate to 4500 meters. and as you noted, that's about two and a half miles down. at that depth, the pressure is equivalent to having the weight of a cadillac escalade on your thumbnail. it's also slightly above freezing...

Triangulate, to nail down that position as close as possible. and then into that haystack will go the next vehicle. it might be the bluefin 21, if it's shallow enough. think the operating depth is 4,500 meters. if we're below that, then they're going to have to go to plan b, so they've got lots of things if their quivver they can reach out and use. i would expect something in the order of days to a week or so. >> yeah, i'm glad they have a very robust quivver. it's great to talk to you. your insight is remarkable. david galo joining us live on the phone. another story we're following, olympi...

Aircraft if that is what it is. >> the next strategy will be to try to use the pinger locater. the challenge is that they are close is the operating distance. it's going to be interesting to see you know, what kind of depths they come up with. but the operating depth is 4500 meters. it was 3800 meters and it would be deeper than titaniitanic. it's deep for a wreck. >> what about the submarines, they are assets here, are they of use at this point? >> they may be okay to listen. but in terms of reaching the