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Control of the chaos with migrants around the world. >> ashley: marianne rafferty with the details, marianne. >> startling testimony by the border chief. yesterday the field hearing in mcallen, texas, saying the u.s. does not have control of the border. >> does ths have operational control of the entire border? >> no, sir. >> todd: you heard this senator operational control andt is the definition of operation control. >> we don't have operational control. >> no, sir. >> despite homeland security alejandro mayorkas saying just the opposite in april of last year. >> the security fence act says w...

Looking into the issues brought up in the text. and this was a text that don jr. had sent mark meadows on november 5th. and in part of the text at the time, it said, we have operation control, total leverage, moral high ground. potus must start second term there. there is more of that there, very similar to what actually played out. again, cnn reported on this earlier when we reported on the meadows text. donald trump jr.'s lawyer said essentially the same thing he said in that deposition. donald trump jr. was not the author of this text and they don't know where it came from. >> i don't think...

Former watergate prosecutor nick ackerman, ramesh -- and former senator doug jones. gentlemen, great to have you here. i don't mean to be flippant, but this language, the grandiose language in this text that don jr. sent to mark meadows, it does ring a bell. when somebody says, we have operational control, total leverage, moral high ground, potus must start second term now, state assemblies can step forward to put the slate, republicans control 28 states, democrats 22, once again, trump wins. i don't know if that was an inebriated rudy giuliani or steve bannon, but that was a roadmap for what ...

She was really always the pragmatic, realistic give us the worst-case scenario type of person and nobody did that for him. grisham said the melania trump showered on donald trump jr.'s advice, kimberly gil freud advice, rudy giuliani, other folks that she was skeptical of, she felt again, according to stephanie gruesome, her husband is not getting good advice and the push back that she should have gotten. >> that has proven to be true. sarah, thank you very much. joining me now, we have former water gate prosecutor, nick akron, also editor of the national review and former senator doug jones. ...

It's interesting because the former president son, there was this text messages -- laid out a plan for donald trump to stay in power, similar to what played out. congressional investigators asking why did you send this tax to meadows, and don junior says, look, this looks like a copy and paste job. perhaps in reading it, it was a sophisticated details about things i don't necessarily know too much about. it sounded plausible, and i wanted to make sure that we were looking into the issues brought up and detects, and this was a text that don junior sent to mark meadows on november 5th, and a par...