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Houses shouldn't throw too many rocks. so there is a difference between an act of espionage which we conduct as well as and other nations do, versus an attack. >> just as a broader point, i think the opm issue highlights that massive data concentrations increasingly have value all their own. i can remember ten years ago, thinking to myself, large databases like opm are so large, the ability of an intruder, an external actor to access, fully extract, and bore their way through millions upon millions of millions of records would be difficult. but with the power of big data analytics, large data ...

Between, you know, an act of espionage, which we conduct as well and other nations do, versus an attack. mike, you want to comment? >> just as a broader point, i think the opm issue highlights that massive data concentrations increasingly have value all of their own. what do i mean by that? i can remember ten years ago earlier in my time in cyber thinking to myself large data bases like opm are so large the ability of an external actor to access and bore their way upon millions and millions of records would be difficult. but with the power of big data analytics, large data concentrations now b...

You know, an act of espionage, which we conduct as well and other nations do, versus an attack. mike, you want to comment? >> just as a broader point, i think o.p.m. issue highlights that massive data concentration increasingly have value all of their own. i remember 10 years ago earlier in my time in cyber thinking to myself large databases are so large the ability of an intruder, an external actor to fully extract and bore their way through millions and millions of records would be difficult. but with the power of big data analytics. it now becomes increasingly attractive targets. the abilit...