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We saw sort of the messaging, even as he was tinkering with whether he wanted to rule it out or not. he knew he would get blocked in the lower courts, he would get blocked in the 9th circuit and go to the supreme court. the idea here has always been the courts will ultimately decide a constitutional question like this in the first place. but to gloria's point just from an optics standpoint, the fact that there was bipartisan support for this resolution of disapproval, i think, speaks to the fact that congress had no intention of wanting to approve this type in the first place. >> this is nowhe...

Issuing a blanket denial. that goes against the very nature of a co-equal branch of government. my hope would be -- my expectation is the house plaema fairly extensive requests. the congress has the right to provide oversight, including over all aspects of the executive branch, including the president. the law has got to be followed. >> david axelrod criticized the scope of the document request. he said it too easily play sbs o the witch hunt meme. do you think he has a point? >> i've not reviewed the extensive requests from the house. >> just the fact that it's so extensive, does that risk fr...

Do you think he has a point there? >> listen, i have not reviewed all of the extensive requests from the house. i know that in -- >> but just the fact that it's so extensive, does that risk certainly just from an optics standpoint -- >> anderson, all i can tell you is with our investigation in the senate that's been bipartisan we've made a series of requests and we've been very successful with having those requests honored. >> i guess what is the end game in your opinion for democrats in all these investigations? i mean, certainly a lot of democrats have expressed skepticism about impeachment,...

It is fair to ask for corroboration. he's had some already. there's tape of him in conversation with donald trump about payments. it's not about -- it's always about what evidence exists in addition. and i think the points that ken was making is really important. why this is so important for tomorrow, in particular, because americans can make their own decision about whether they think he's credible. >> that's about public opinion. let's talk about legal jeopardy. from an optics standpoint, you have the president, potentially going to make a historic deal. you have michael cohen airing his dir...

Doesn't look nilike anyone did that in this instance. the other thing, it gets at the broader argument alluded to, then the democratic party. you have bill de blasio saying we need to show we can reach economic fairness but also focus on growth and creating jobs, and how you marry those two things and come up with a pure argument as a party and they still haven't figured that out. >> kind of split the party a little. you see the headline like on the "chicago tribune." amazon paid no federal taxes, on $11.2 billion in profits. haven't paid federal taxes in two years consecutively. democrats are...