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Option b, how many people would say she was so aggressive and so nasty and so unlady like. you don't have to be hillary clinton as a woman, as you know, as i know from my wife and other women in my life, to be in a position where men speak to you in a way that can or look to you in a way in a is men acing, unwelcome or dismissive. you may go into a cocktail party and nobody asks you what you do or doesn't care about what you think. i thought her use of the words trying to throw me off in a professional setting where they don't treat you the same way. i think there's so much truth that hillary ...

Lifetime of dealing with difficult men throwing to throw me off. i did, however, grip the microphone extra hard. i wonder, though, whether i should have chosen option b. it certainly would have been better tv. maybe i have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched first, smiling all the while, determined to present a composed face to the world. >> okay. that's insightful, i think, and interesting to hear her take on that. because option b would have been better tv, obviously, and better i think that the -- obviously her supporters would ha...

Her skin crawl. donald trump was accused of sexual assault by multiple women. he denied all of the accusations around turned around and brought three women to the debate that had accused former president bill clinton of sexual assault. hillary clinton said she regrets that she handled the moment of the debate badly. watch. >> you wish you could hit pause and ask everyone watching, well, what would you do? do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he wasn't repeatedly invading your space? or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly, back up, you creep, get away from m...

Scenario. she wasn't silent. she continued with grace and continued campaigning as president of the united states of america. i would say that she chose path. she's a seasoned politician. she didn't confront someone who, i think is a woman was intimidating and stalking her in a creepy, non-verbal way. i agree with her analysis. she chose a very disciplined approach. i do think that women in our culture have no right way to proceed when a man is intimidating or threatening them let alone harassing and sa assaulting them. if she chose option b, many of us would have cheered here and it would hav...

Ultimately led to the great achievements and that wouldn't have been possible most likely if we had stopped the experiment in 1865. >> john meacham, you're great. it's good to have you on and great to hear your voice and i respect it a lot. >> thank you. >> up next, hillary clinton says her skin crawled during that -- look at this -- during that second presidential debate with donald trump. remember he loomed up behind her on the stage? we know how she responded. she chose option a, she said. but what was her option b? what was she thinking about doing and what did you think about that weird l...