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Deposition, and there is no way that donald trump can escape that. no way on earth. >> and richard, back to the point that you made earlier, and the cohen spokesman and david schwartz', spokesman said that he had no idea about the agreement with stormy daniels and no idea about the $130,000 payment to stymie her. this is the interview on cnn. >> the president is not aware of the agreement, and at least michael cohen never told him about the agreement, and you asked a whole bunch of questions and let me can cover that. you asked about the 12 days before -- >> not the agreement, but the money. >...

President was never in any way aware of the $130,000 or the agreement itself? >> the president was not aware of the agreement. michael cohen never told him and you asked a bunch of questions so let me cover that. you asked 12 days before -- >> not aware about the agreement. what about the money? >> he was not aware about any of it. he wasn't told about it. michael cohen left the option open. that's why he left the signature line. michael cohen chose not to go to him. you have to understand the structure of the trump organization and michael cohen's role, it was much than attorney and client. h...

$130,000 or the agreement itself? >> the president was not aware of the agreement. at least michael cohen never told him about the agreement. i can tell you that. you asked a whole bunch of questions. let me cover that. >> mm-hmm. >> you asked about 12 days before -- >> what about the money? >> he was not aware about any of it. >> okay. >> he was not aware. >> okay. >> wasn't told about it. michael cohen left the option open. that's why he left the option open. an option to go to him. he chose not to. >> other lawyers suggested he threw cohen under the bus. saying he made trump party to a lega...

I can tell you that. you asked a whole bunch of questions, so let me cover that. so, you asked about 12 days before -- >> not aware about the agreement. what about the money? he >> he was not aware of any of t. he wasn't told about it. michael cohen left the option open. that's why he left that signature line. the option open to go to him. he chose not to. >> wow, that was david schwarz, the lawyer for trump's lawyer and fixer michael cohen, the michael cohen who paid $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels. but did schwarz just step in it there by admitting trump wasn't aware of the agreemen...

Down. >> you haven't answered the substantive question about whether the president was aware of the $130,000 payment that was made under agreement in which he is explicitly named to keep stormy daniels silent. can you answer that question? you were asked three weeks ago you weren't aware. are you aware now? >> look, the president has denied the allegations. we've spoken about this issue extensively. and i don't have anything to add beyond that. anything beyond that i would refer you to the outside counsel. >> seems like a simple question and you are michael cohen spokesperson in this. so you c...