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"the black national anthem." the title of the song is "lift every voice and sing." been around since 1900, but some are saying, including the guy sitting fex to next to me, dr. askew, are saying it is divisive. we appreciate you being here. talked to you before the break about why you think the song should just not be labeled that. it could apply to so many people with struggle. reverend jesse jackson is on the phone with us from chicago. i can show you why -- there he is. the reason we have to do it like this, having some weather issues there in chicago. reverend jackson, we appreciate you no...

I even had very militant black students, very militant black restaurants say dr. askew, if they keep calling this song "black national anthem," it is dividing us because other people have also experienced the same pain that black folks have. is our pain much more important than their pain? >> reverend jackson, i'll let you wrap it up here. >> the bible says remove not the ancient landmarks our mothers and fathers have set. this experience of the 246 years of slavery is a part of a landmark. the other way to put it, the children crossing the jordan river, put 12 stones in the river. why? might ...

In his words. >> to me that doesn't stand to reason. songs in our unique slavery experience, our unique jim crow experience and it is a song as if "we shall overcome" regarding our years when our brothers saved this far along the way. i was talking with a group this week of latino leaders who were concerned that they're trying to remove ethnic studies in arizona. the attempt to excerpt ethnic studies in school, the attempt to sterexcerpt the tape that dr about the shirley sherrod, we shouldn't excerpt the tape. the multi-culturism is the richness and genius of the american experience. >> rever...

Stories today and that's all of the heat. 22 states are under heat advisories and warnings. we'll tell you more about that and some flood issues we're concerned about later in the hour. thank you so much. we'll watch it all and keep an eye on the heat. let's turn to our reynolds wolf who's in new orleans for us, keeping an eye on things. i see you there in the monitor here shaking your head like what's going on now that you've left the studio. >> i heard. i'm not bonnie. i am not bon nibonnie. just to be fair, we have to dole out the abuse in even proportions here. that's what we're doing....