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The state didn't prove its case. there's not enough evidence to take this to the jury. these motions are always made. they are rarely, rarely granted. because the evidence is looked at in the light most favorable to the government. so i suspect that that's something that may happen as well. and after that -- and those motions sometimes are very quick. and sometimes they take a long time. so depending on how long that takes, then we may see the beginning of the defense case. >> martin, what do you think of this final witness the state called today? this dr. bao, associate medical examiner? a lo...

Intermediate range pattern, correct? >> yes. >> and you put in terms of 0.4 inches to four feet. >> yes, based on the literature i used. >> yes, sir. and you also provided to both counsel the -- and i'm going to mispronounce it. the inter -- >> intermediate. >> tell me again. that's where you have clothing, right? >> oh, yeah, the intermediary. intermediary means you have something between the muzzle of the gun and the target, or skin of trayvon martin. >> as you stated in the notes you provided counsel, you believe in this case there was something, the two sweatshirts. >> yes. >> correct? oka...

>> so that's really ten times, isn't it? >> yes. >> ten times, one to ten minutes is a huge -- >> yes. let me tell you -- >> is that as accurate as you can be? >> yes. >> okay. let's then talk about something else you said in connection with that. if i heard what you said earlier in direct, that you said that immediately following the shot, trayvon martin would not be able to move. did you say that? >> yes, i did. >> is that your opinion, that based upon the shot to mr. martin's heart that immediately upon sustaining it, he would not have been able to move? >> and also i gained the experience ...

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Continue to question him. she called it a rookie mistake. do you agree? >> i agree. i think that he really didn't make any point with his cross-examination. everything that he has to argue this is already in evidence. you're never going to get the victim's mother to really give you anything more. she was solid. she was convinced that that was her son's voice on that tape. nothing he asked her was going to change that. it was really kind of a pointless cross. >> i'll throw a question to you. this is something i was just curious. in terms of standard operating procedure, when you are a mother of...