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Make presentation, come for a time, go back and that they want to continue doing that which means there would be future invitations to scholar who do not have connection with this country. >> i believe there's some declaration on those lines but i'm describing the statement of the extent of their suit that they made in this brief to the court. to extent that's relief they seek, this court should stay that's people who have never been to the united states and section 5 of the order which is refugee pro vision and applies to people who have not been here yet and don't have those relations to the...

Spend sfiometime on this -- >> i suggest this may not be the topic that's most important. >> fair enough. man dame us allows review. if the court treats this as an appealable order, the -- properly treats this as man dame us and send it back to the district court, they would -- when district court understands that's what its doing what's what the court can review. a temporary restaining order. i will -- >> in your view, if we left this order in place, would there then be a preliminary injunction hearing in the district court?

Reject defendant's motion and that explains why even if the court considers the motion it should relevaject it on the mer. defendants have filed notice of appeal and -- >> why should we care? >> a district court -- suppose a district court issue an order school to be close and did it in form in tro and said it would last 14 days are you suggesting that man dame us is the only form available? >> -- you are saying we should not look at it. it's hard to envision an order

Does here. i do want to get to key point. >> we would like to get to answer to the question. because it speaks to it's standing issue if the order says muslims could not be admit would anything have standing to challenge that? >> it would be by u.s. citizen with connection with someone seeking entry. this is far cry from that -- >> is there a purpose standing, is there an why i purpose for your argument that we shouldn't recognize this lawsuit by the states and we should wait for an individual to bring this claim. what's the purpose of that? >> there needs to be concrete protected interest tha...

This sweeping that should not be subject to appellate oversight. >> your honor -- >> you have a tro by its terms. we have received proposed schedule, we know already that this tro is going to stay in place for more than -- why should we view this as an injunction. >> first of all, the time line in the order defendant's have cited, the order lasted four months. the order temporary restraining order, order party to confer and agree on briefing schedule and complete within 14 days within entry of the order, forced us to