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Election matchups and i guess they may see a path forward. >> well, to think about biden, try this thought experiment. imagine that donald trump gets the gop nomination. it's not inconceivable now. and think who's the kind of candidate who could beat trump. not just beat him, really wipe the floor with him, and the answer is joe biden. joe biden is the person who knows how to speak to people in that same direct, blunt language that trump uses but in a less antagonistic way. biden has actually been there for decades in key decision-making areas. he's a natural, nice, ordinary guy. he has a stor...

Know. >> what is his relationship like with his children? >> he treated them good. he treated them nice. but again, you know, through closed doors you really don't understand how much of a monster he is. he could be nice one, you know, outside and inside the house he could be a totally different person. i -- >> i was going to say that is sort of consistent with what neighbors told me. there were some neighbors on the street, i was there the other night, they said they are so shocked because they thought he was a nice guy. they weren't behind closed doors with him in the house but they also sai...

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