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Of folks, including me, by the way, to see how this was far from a spontaneous uprising. it was planned, executed in organized by president trump and the white house. >> and actually, it's interesting, to your point -- a university poll shows more than 2 to 1 margin americans think the attack on the capitol was planned rather than spontaneous. i assume you're glad to see that. it speaks to how the story is cutting through to the american people. don't you think? >> it is. but, you know we want to take a step back. whether you're conservative or liberal, when we have had contentious debates abo...

Encouraging people to come. and raising money off of that. and having a plan to -- the fact that they are doing a methodical way, the january six commission, is allowing a lot of folks, including me, by the way, to see how this was far from a spontaneous uprising. it was planned, executed in organized by president trump and the white house. >> and actually, it's interesting, to your point -- a university poll shows more than 2 to 1 margin americans think the attack on the capitol was planned rather than spontaneous. i assume you're glad to see that. it speaks to how the story is cutting throug...

Economies, in recent days, have shown some worrying signs. when the economy isn't as strong in these country, sometimes these people stay back in their home countries in central america. >> let's talk about the economy. and perhaps what motivated president trump to do this. let's listen to katherine and what she had to skay. >> i think the combination of the lackluster jobs numbers, and the catastrophic damage that was predicted for an economy, even if the economy were doing quite well, and it seems to be slowing, plus all of the business groups that have come out against him, 140 of which sig...

Did he finally win? he won by razor thin margins in wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan on election day. if those states go against him by razor thin margins in 2020, he'll try to discredit those results, he'll claim fraud, he and roger stone will be working on this stop the steal thing to turn the tables on democracy to suggest that the candidate who got the most votes shouldn't win. by the way, this isn't a new tactic. roger stone and his people all the way back in 2000 organized a fake riot to stop the vote counting in mild county in 2000, a bunch of washington conservative staffers flown in,...

Conservative staffers flown in, organized by roger stone, who shut down a legal vote count in miami-dade county. that's one reason we'll never know who would have won if all the votes had been counted in 2000. >> given that experience, given what you went through in 2000, given your washington experience, i mean, you were chief of staff to joe biden, you were chief of staff to al gore, given what we've seen telegraphed in the russian interference campaign and what trump telegraphed in 2016 ahead of that election that i think even they thought that they were going to lose, what's the way to fig...