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Instantly funny, this man who so desperately wants to be loved. and he mistook sort of respect for popularity, which is sort of my point about fame. so many people make that mistake, you know. >> when you first saw steve carell playing his version, did you feel like i did? oh, what a relief. he can do it. i just couldn't see how anyone could do what that -- >> but he got better and better. it got better and better. and it is different, and it has to be different. i remember, first of all, people saying, this won't work because we were sort of darlings of the press. it won't work. it won't be t...

It's so much fun. i've never had so much fun playing as character such as david brent because everything he does is so desperate it's instantly funny, this man who so desperately wants to be loved. and he mistook sort of respect for popularity, which is sort of my point about fame. so many people make that mistake, you know. >> when you first saw steve carell playing his version, did you feel like i did? oh, what a relief. he can do it. i just couldn't see how anyone could do what that -- >> but he got better and better. it got better and better. and it is different, and it has to be different...

No, it won't be the same, and it shouldn't be the same. the original version wouldn't have worked on network tv at 9:00. it's much bigger than the original version was. >> did steve tell you he was leaving the american version? >> yeah, well, i sent him an e-mail saying i think you're doing the right thing. as a producer, i was expected to try and stop him because he's a big part of it. it can survive. whether it should or not, i don't know. you know, it's -- i do feel that i'm just an adviser. he's done an amazing job. he's done his time -- sounds like a prison sentence, doesn't it? it's bigg...